Alot of peeps seem think that the Belanger headers/mids with the Magnaflow catbacks are the way to go, but does this combo yield the most HP/Tq gains @ the wheels? There are so many combos to choose from. I don't really care about the sound nor the cost, but am lookin' for the combo that gives me the most ponies!

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I would put $ up that the Belangers, mids w/no cats + Magnaflow or Borla will give you the most HP/Tq gains. I dont think there is a measurable difference between the Borla and the Magnaflow.

My .02

 

Exactly. I'm not only a vendor BUT...I actually run an SRT 10 myself. I could have had any setup I wanted. I decided on Belangers with belanger mid pipes with highflows and a Magnaflow catback. One thing I did do was cut he reduction slip fit necks off the magnaflow so I have a true 3" system from the collector back.

 

Thanks for the feedback

Belangers with belanger mid pipes with highflows and a Magnaflow catback.

Added to my wish list....

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I've hear Belanger headers and Belanger CAT-LESS midpipes are the way to go. As far as a CAT-BACK system, B&B does advertise more ponies and torque compared to magnaflow. But, its a minimal amount (something like 2HP more and like 4 or 5ft-lbs more torque), and I'm not sure if you could justify the price difference between the two. I think B&B CAT-BACK is almost 3 times as much as Magnaflow. Just my opinion, take it as you will.

 

The Belanger long tubes with Hi-flow cat is where most of the gain in power is coming from.

The main difference with the Maganflow, B&B, and borla will be the sound & price. They are all 3" Systems and use a straight Threw muffler, so the gains will all be very similar with the cat-back's. It will just come down to which sound you like best, and I personally like the way the Belangers sound with the Maganflow Cat-Back.

Any other questions, Please let me know.

Thanks, David

 

I ordered from David today, we'll see how it goes

 

Hells yeah!

I ordered from David today, we'll see how it goes

You go maan, and keep us posted!

D

 

I question the abilty for headers to add any significant gains in HP.

The stock manifolds are not your typical variety. And you won't burn up your starter, wires etc.. The first cat must go or be replaced by hi flos....just my opinion.

If your going to spend $1,500.00 for headers, make sure you have already bought your DC flash....

 

I bought my DC flash today as well. Has anyone put on header shields?

http://www.dcperformance.com/Nav.aspx/Page=/PageManager/Default.aspx/PageID=397354

You can scroll down and see them.

 

The main difference with the Maganflow, B&B, and borla will be the sound & price. They are all 3" Systems and use a straight Threw muffler, so the gains will all be very similar with the cat-back's. It will just come down to which sound you like best,
Thanks, David

There's one major difference you left out. Magnaflow uses 400 series stainless steel which is less expensive and less durable than T304 stainless steel. Both Borla and B&B use T304 stainless steel. If you're interested in the specifics, please email me at davidb@borla.com . I have a wealth of information from NASA (and other reputable sources) regarding corrosion and cracking of 400 series stainless steel.

 

I question the abilty for headers to add any significant gains in HP.

The stock manifolds are not your typical variety. And you won't burn up your starter, wires etc.. The first cat must go or be replaced by hi flos....just my opinion.

If your going to spend $1,500.00 for headers, make sure you have already bought your DC flash....

There are significant gains to be had with an exhaust system that is designed properly. This is a description of a system I designed and built.
Headers were custom made equal length, stepped 5 into 1 with true merged collectors, coated inside and out.
Two 3" Magnaflow hi flow Cats, rear cats are not used. No check engine light ever set or came on. All o2 sensor bungs are in proper location to cats. 3" in and out and through a one of a kind Bassani stainless muffler with an X crossover in the muffler. This muffler was a true 3" all the way through. (The Magnaflow necks down to 2.5" in the center.)
Magnaflow stainless dual exhaust pipes. The ones used on the Magnaflow Cat back system for the Ram SRT-10.
The entire system and headers were Tig welded.
This system was held together with 6 stainless V band clamps and uses the stock hangers.This system made 44 more RWHP on the same Dyno (West Coast Viper) with no other changes. 406 before and 450 after RWHP. The torque curve is very broad and flat. That is the great thing about stepped headers. No other exhaust system has made more proven dyno horsepower and torque than this one.
The Hp and torque gains were with no other mods. I did not have a high performance program. The gains would have been significently greater with a VEC or HP Flash. I designed this system to work with a blower. But even without blower it made a .35 difference in ET and was good for 2.5 MPH in the 1/4 mile times. A good system will make more power regardless of other mods. If properly designed it will enhance other mods greatly.........Jack

 

Fstjack

Can't argue with that....and you have me drooliing over your system.....How's the sound and do you have a link for the muffler

My point is that a good cat back and hi flo cat combo with a DC flash will net you more bang for the buck than dropping $2000.00 on a set of headers...Additionally we don't know how much of your hp gain can be attributed to the hi flo's and your muffler...

 

Bassani muffler

The muffler was a one off that Daryl Bassani custom made for me. They do not make the muffler for sale..........Jack